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People who think that their faith is supreme over all others are the cause of Islamophobia
Friday, July 29, 2022
Local Taliban Extremist With Deeply Rooted Infidelphobia

Malaysiakini : Oktoberfest should not be allowed – minister. He wants to implement the Pact of Umar.

Rupert16 : Is the increase in incest, child marriages, drug addiction, Mat Rempits among Muslims the outcome of consuming alcohol? Obviously not. If anything, the Religious Minister should take a long hard as to the above causes which are causing havoc in his community.

RedWolf4463All over again. The Malaysian political landscape and news is full of bickering over religious domination, wanton corruption, racial superiority. While the rakyat continue to suffer under misrule and neglect. Look at Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia. No wonder Malaysia has fallen so far behind all our neighbours.

The PAS leaders and ministers should let the whole world know how much of child marriages, incest, drug abuse, corruption, theft, divorce, poverty, sexual abuse etc is happening among their kind behind the religious facade. And Oktoberfest and Bon Odori which has got nothing to do with them is deemed more evil than all their deeds. PAS must never again be given a voice in federal government after the GE15.
 
Kneazle : It's like telling the Malays to avoid Bak Kut Teh as if the Malay were not aware what Oktoberfest is about. IA was making some noises to earn his keep. Otherwise he will be accused of tak buat kerja.
 
JazliSalleh : The constitution gives the Non Muslims the rights to hold an alcohol festival as they deem fit. Muslims should not dictate what Non Muslims should or should not be doing according to Islam. That is not their religion in the first place. We should not act as their guardians. Faham tak!! Just mind our own business. The constitution is clear on the rights of every citizen.
 
GrayWolf2705 : I like arak, I minum.
You don't like, you jangan minum
I don't tell PUS to minum because I like
You don't tell me I cannot minum because you don't like.
Then only aman
 
OCT : For so many years these two festivals have been celebrated without any incidents and/or caused illusions to anyone. In fact these two festivals and other non Muslim festivals have generated more income for the Govt. Times are hard. NM Rakyat needs festivals to drown the misery by jollying, singing and/or dancing. Festivals are meant to bring friendship, understandings and laughter. Don't always think of negative impacts just because it is not inline with your religion or culture. The old Malaysia is more tolerable, inclusive and accomodating to other religions and their culture and festivals. Open your eyes to see how the whole world has progressed instead of living in the past where only camels and flying carpets were popular. Malaysia has been losing out to the neighboring countries due to lots of restrictions and regulations that are not conducive for investors to relax after a hard day's work. Wake up to the new world.
 
apek superdad : Pilihlah untuk duk rumah diam2. Pilihan di tangan kita. We are responsible for our own happiness. Apa pun festival.. semua orang apa bangsa pun boleh pilih nak pergi atau tak nak pergi.. Tn Menteri lebih baik tengok kes rasuah, ketirisan bajet kerajaan, suami tak bayar nafkah isteri, anak2, isu Mat Rempit dsb... 
 
Ini semua hal2 yang lebih besar lagi dari Bon Odori, Oktoberfest.. hal festival ni hal kecik aje, orang kampung tak ambik kisah pun .. ambik la iktibar.. selesaikan isu2 masyarakat Melayu yang lebih fundamental. Kalau betul2 ada masa terluang, bantulah PAS Kelantan tu dengan isu bekalan air.. Itu pun satu Kebajikan untuk rakyat.. Bon Odori, Oktoberfest, dan lain2 hal ni..tak payah buang masa. It brings no value to your position as a Minister.
 
Proarte This is an ongoing issue which pushes the 'Ketuanan Islam dan Melayu' narrative of bankrupt politicians.They are appealing to their support base which is the rural and relatively uneducated B40 group who are easily influenced by PAS' abuse of Islam.

The Oktoberfest is a German Beer Festival which is very much a German cultural event. Malays who feel drinking beer or watching non-Muslims drinking beer is wrong should simply not attend. It is the Constitutional right of non-Muslims to be left in peace an harmony to carry out their cultural activities which may include drinking alcohol.

There is no absolute ban on drinking alcohol in Islam as the benefits of alcohol are also recognised. In the Quran Chapter 47 verse 15, we are told the rivers of heaven are flowing with the most delicious of wines. If Allah has no issue with alcohol per se, then how can Idris of PAS have any issue? If we drink too much alcohol then it will have negative consequences. Idris should be aware there is debate whether Cannabis and Ketum should be allowed for medicinal purposes.

Has Idris not read the Al-Kafirun chapter of the Quran which essentially calls for mutual tolerance between Muslims and non-Muslims? If PAS wants to play politics and poison the minds of Muslims and cause division in our society, then they will increasingly be exposed.
 
Kilimanjaro : This Minister for Islamic affairs continues to abuse his position by interfering in matters that has no relevance to Muslims. Is this his way of showing disrespect to the beliefs and the cultures of NM or is he on a mission to spite the NM? Or is he trying to challenge the NM? He should not expect NM to take every blow lying down. He has been playing a very dangerous game that can turn ugly one day. He got a "slap" on his face when Muslims ignored his plea not to attend the Bon Odori festival. He has to be schooled on what it means by having and showing mutual respect among the various religions in the country. Just because Islam is the religion of the Federation he cannot go on bashing up the NM and their cultures.
 
RZeeHere we go again. Did anyone ask the Muslims to attend this festival? They can stay home and cook rice and drink syrup. Why do Muslims behave like this to their fellow citizens who in turn, don’t interfere in the choices of Muslims ? Who is disrespecting who ? Getting sickening.
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8 Comments:
  • At 12:34 PM, Anonymous LimeGuppy5931 said…

    Please don't disturb non-muslim festival and culture.

    "Jangan cuba mencabar. Kesabaran kami ada batasnya "

    Guys , sounds familiar ?

     
  • At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Oscar Kilo said…

    Yes, alcohol causes road accidents, but in Malaysia drunk driving is actually the smallest cause of road accidents. Most accidents are caused by sober but reckless drivers. Just ask yourself, how many mat rempits drink alcohol?

     
  • At 12:37 PM, Anonymous BluePanther4725 said…

    This PAS minister should replace Oktoberfest with Corruptionfest instead. This will be allowed because according to PAS's version of Islam, corruption and kleptocracy is totally halal and good for our country.

     
  • At 12:38 PM, Anonymous foodforthought said…

    This opportunist ignoramus anti-social Illegitimate should not be allowed to be a 'minister' for the Rakyat.

     
  • At 12:42 PM, Anonymous HangTuahPJ said…

    " all parties should respect the rules and laws of Malaysia that is based on Islam as the religion of the federation,”. Dei. What are you talking?? I thought Rules and Laws of Malaysia are based on the very very secular Federal Constitution.

     
  • At 12:44 PM, Anonymous EQUALIZER121 said…

    Hello potato head,

    solve your Muslim problems of incest , raping of animals to death, marring under age girls..corruption.

    Stop fanning racial tensions

    Stop being a fool and do your duty as Malaysia official religion maybe Islam...but the country is a secular nation

    Stop imposing on other people's rights.

    Stop being holier than thou.

     
  • At 12:45 PM, Anonymous Newday said…

    Idris - am actually wondering why you as Minister for Islamic religion is even discussing this? This Fun Festival has no religious links whatsoever. It is seriously none of your business what others not of the Islamic persuasion do with their time and money.

    You raise social ills - domestic violence, traffic accidents, poverty, fights, health problems and poor work performance, to justify your stance.
    These are social ills that only occur in the most extreme minority cases of alcohol consumption and does not represent the vast majority consuming a Pint or two of the frosty nectar at a festival that has been celebrated for many years the World over.

    Social ills you describe can happen in many different circumstances and religions. Poverty, domestic violence, traffic accidents, fights, poor work performance and adverse health conditions are rife in your home state of Kelantan. Yet in theory it is the most Islamic State in Malaysia. How to reconcile that? You cannot, but deflect away from the impact of ultra conservative Islam on the daily existence of those in your home State.

    Please, when it comes to non-Islamic events in our multi faceted Malaysia, it is really best if you don’t comment at all, but instead focus on the social ills permeating Islamic society instead.

     
  • At 12:47 PM, Anonymous Proarte said…

    I hope HRH the Sultan of Selangor as the Head of Islam in Selangor intervenes in the same way he did in shutting up PAS when they wanted a ban on the Bon Odori Japanese Festival. PAS is determined to divide the races in Malaysia and cause unnecessary tension. If only PAS would concentrate on improving the lives of Malays in this country.

    The Oktoberfest is a German Festival which German expats and their Malaysian friends here look forward to. It celebrates the food and beverages of the Germans including their famous beers; It is the constitutional right of non-Muslims to drink alcohol and to participate in a non-Halal festival in peace and harmony without any interference from Muslims.

    The al-Kafirun chapter of the Quran makes it clear that non-Muslims have their rights in the same way Muslims do - "to each his own" is essentially what al-Kafirun enjoins. Why was this missed out in Idris of PAS Islamic education?

    Idris too would have learnt if he was paying attention to his Islamic studies that alcohol has benefits as well as negative effects. Idris said alcohol causes " domestic violence, traffic accidents, poverty, fights, health problems, and poor work performance". Cannabis and Ketum can also cause the same if consumed to excess but not so if used intelligently. Not surprisingly Malaysia is considering legalising its use for medicinal purposes.

    Jesus who is a revered prophet in Islam, converted water to wine at the wedding in Cana as recounted in the Injil. The Muhammad chapter of the Quran (Chapter 47, verse 15) states that Heaven has rivers of wine flowing with the most delectable wines!

    So the question remains why Idris is so exercised when non-Muslims enjoy themselves in the Oktoberfest which serves beverages which are 'heavenly' in nature?

     
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